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		<title>By: ninme</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/05/holy_obstacle_b.html#comment-6230</link>
		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No see, it's all so simple.  If only there was no religion, man!  You don't need to &lt;i&gt;read&lt;/i&gt; anything because you already &lt;i&gt;know&lt;/i&gt;!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No see, it&#8217;s all so simple.  If only there was no religion, man!  You don&#8217;t need to <i>read</i> anything because you already <i>know</i>!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rueful Red</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/05/holy_obstacle_b.html#comment-6229</link>
		<dc:creator>Rueful Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 15:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That's wonderful. Thanks!
Could you write to The Times, please, RC2, and just point this out? Kamm would seem to have been engaged in an act of wilful misunderstanding. Atavism at work, at a guess.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s wonderful. Thanks!
Could you write to The Times, please, RC2, and just point this out? Kamm would seem to have been engaged in an act of wilful misunderstanding. Atavism at work, at a guess.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RC2</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/05/holy_obstacle_b.html#comment-6228</link>
		<dc:creator>RC2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 13:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You've gotta love it that the repudiation of the disgusting epithet "Jews are Christ-killers" turns out to be "Christians are Jew-killers." And the way to prevent another stamping out of Jews is to "remove the detritus" of our "malign ideology." I'd like to know his final solution.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I'm thinking Kamm didn't listen to everything B16 said at Auschwitz, including this:
"Deep down, those vicious criminals, by wiping out this people, wanted to kill the God who called Abraham, who spoke on Sinai and laid down principles to serve as a guide for mankind, principles that are eternally valid. If this people, by its very existence, was a witness to the God who spoke to humanity and took us to himself, then that God finally had to die and power had to belong to man alone - to those men, who thought that by force they had made themselves masters of the world. By destroying Israel, by the Shoah, they ultimately wanted to tear up the taproot of the Christian faith and to replace it with a faith of their own invention: faith in the rule of man, the rule of the powerful."&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve gotta love it that the repudiation of the disgusting epithet &#8220;Jews are Christ-killers&#8221; turns out to be &#8220;Christians are Jew-killers.&#8221; And the way to prevent another stamping out of Jews is to &#8220;remove the detritus&#8221; of our &#8220;malign ideology.&#8221; I&#8217;d like to know his final solution.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m thinking Kamm didn&#8217;t listen to everything B16 said at Auschwitz, including this:
&#8220;Deep down, those vicious criminals, by wiping out this people, wanted to kill the God who called Abraham, who spoke on Sinai and laid down principles to serve as a guide for mankind, principles that are eternally valid. If this people, by its very existence, was a witness to the God who spoke to humanity and took us to himself, then that God finally had to die and power had to belong to man alone - to those men, who thought that by force they had made themselves masters of the world. By destroying Israel, by the Shoah, they ultimately wanted to tear up the taproot of the Christian faith and to replace it with a faith of their own invention: faith in the rule of man, the rule of the powerful.&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett_McS</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/05/holy_obstacle_b.html#comment-6227</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett_McS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 12:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A good test of the atavistic-force-fighting qualities of a religion could be the presence of the Golden Rule, or equivalent.  Buddhism, Confuscianism, Christianity, Judaism, have it.  Nazism, Communism and Islam don't.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A good test of the atavistic-force-fighting qualities of a religion could be the presence of the Golden Rule, or equivalent.  Buddhism, Confuscianism, Christianity, Judaism, have it.  Nazism, Communism and Islam don&#8217;t.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rueful Red</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/05/holy_obstacle_b.html#comment-6226</link>
		<dc:creator>Rueful Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 10:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It was the failure of organised religion to suppress "the atavistic forces that aimed at the destruction of every last Jew in Europe" that resulted in the Holocaust. Christianity explicitly confronts those forces and frees us from them - St Paul is absolutely firm about this. The secular religions of Nazism, Communism and Islam (which, let's face it, is really about power over man, not the love of God) all relied on an atavistic appeal to the power instinct.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the failure of organised religion to suppress &#8220;the atavistic forces that aimed at the destruction of every last Jew in Europe&#8221; that resulted in the Holocaust. Christianity explicitly confronts those forces and frees us from them - St Paul is absolutely firm about this. The secular religions of Nazism, Communism and Islam (which, let&#8217;s face it, is really about power over man, not the love of God) all relied on an atavistic appeal to the power instinct.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ninme</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/05/holy_obstacle_b.html#comment-6225</link>
		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 06:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thank god I'm still under the radar of those infamous online Batman web forums!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god I&#8217;m still under the radar of those infamous online Batman web forums!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett_McS</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/05/holy_obstacle_b.html#comment-6224</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett_McS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 06:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;...and even after ninme highlighted it with such a nifty title. Still no burning cars...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;and even after ninme highlighted it with such a nifty title. Still no burning cars&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RC2</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/05/holy_obstacle_b.html#comment-6223</link>
		<dc:creator>RC2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 03:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;. . .and yet no Christians have rioted over the publication of this column.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>. . .and yet no Christians have rioted over the publication of this column.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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