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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;m Putting Qantas On Speed Dial</title>
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		<title>By: ninme</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/06/im_putting_qant.html#comment-7024</link>
		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Lee is a family name.  Lot of 'em in our tree.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee is a family name.  Lot of &#8216;em in our tree.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rueful Red</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/06/im_putting_qant.html#comment-7023</link>
		<dc:creator>Rueful Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Because they never had a Reformation.
Spinoza, wasn't it?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because they never had a Reformation.
Spinoza, wasn&#8217;t it?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: HalfEmpty</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/06/im_putting_qant.html#comment-7022</link>
		<dc:creator>HalfEmpty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is a Lee. Fooey. Was. :&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is a Lee. Fooey. Was. :</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: HalfEmpty</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/06/im_putting_qant.html#comment-7021</link>
		<dc:creator>HalfEmpty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 17:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;My mother is a Lee.... not of the that Virginia group, I fear she's related to that SOB Charles, which explains why her family are swamp and sawmill  people. The shame musta run them there.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But that's neither here nor there is it? I've always understood the laws on warfare grew out of a desire not to repeat the horrors of the 30 Years War. When I'm gloomy I think we're in the early stages of a similar conflict and 1 side hasn't heard the news.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother is a Lee&#8230;. not of the that Virginia group, I fear she&#8217;s related to that SOB Charles, which explains why her family are swamp and sawmill  people. The shame musta run them there.</p>

<p>But that&#8217;s neither here nor there is it? I&#8217;ve always understood the laws on warfare grew out of a desire not to repeat the horrors of the 30 Years War. When I&#8217;m gloomy I think we&#8217;re in the early stages of a similar conflict and 1 side hasn&#8217;t heard the news.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ninme</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/06/im_putting_qant.html#comment-7020</link>
		<dc:creator>ninme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just think, again, if this is the way it's going to go, why bother doing any of it in the first place?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just think, again, if this is the way it&#8217;s going to go, why bother doing any of it in the first place?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rueful Red</title>
		<link>http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/06/im_putting_qant.html#comment-7019</link>
		<dc:creator>Rueful Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Sorry RC2, but that reference to "The Supremes" just summoned up a surreal moment. "Stop, in the name of love!" and all that.
I hope this ruling has the effect on Congress that you say it might. What with this and the NYT stuff one gets this sense of a large section of Amrica's ruling elite still doesn't understand the gravity of the situation in the way that normal people do.
If they can't tell the difference between a civil war and a war of terror then they really ought to read some history. I'm sure everyone knows this so apologies, but immediately after Appomattox some Confederate junior officers approached Robert E Lee and asked for his blessing on a continuing campaign of bushwhacking and irregular raiding. Not only did he withhold his blessing: he commanded them not even to think of such a thing, and made them feel damn small in the process. Strikes me the great and good General knew a thing or two about the nature of warfare that the Supremes seem yet to have to learn.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry RC2, but that reference to &#8220;The Supremes&#8221; just summoned up a surreal moment. &#8220;Stop, in the name of love!&#8221; and all that.
I hope this ruling has the effect on Congress that you say it might. What with this and the NYT stuff one gets this sense of a large section of Amrica&#8217;s ruling elite still doesn&#8217;t understand the gravity of the situation in the way that normal people do.
If they can&#8217;t tell the difference between a civil war and a war of terror then they really ought to read some history. I&#8217;m sure everyone knows this so apologies, but immediately after Appomattox some Confederate junior officers approached Robert E Lee and asked for his blessing on a continuing campaign of bushwhacking and irregular raiding. Not only did he withhold his blessing: he commanded them not even to think of such a thing, and made them feel damn small in the process. Strikes me the great and good General knew a thing or two about the nature of warfare that the Supremes seem yet to have to learn.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rueful Red</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rueful Red</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Gosh Brett I'm green with envy! That's so much better than most people ever leave behind as a monument - much better than some yellowing journalism or some aged advertisements, for example. Well done and I'm sure the trains will run perfectly. Though like Half my first thought was of Apollo 1 - I still remember the sick feeling that morning.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gosh Brett I&#8217;m green with envy! That&#8217;s so much better than most people ever leave behind as a monument - much better than some yellowing journalism or some aged advertisements, for example. Well done and I&#8217;m sure the trains will run perfectly. Though like Half my first thought was of Apollo 1 - I still remember the sick feeling that morning.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: HalfEmpty</title>
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		<dc:creator>HalfEmpty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wow! You helped build the last great railway? I'm impressed and jealous.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;But I ain't ridin on that sucker until that answer this question to my Apollo I era satisfaction.....&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;There was some dispute over whether or not passengers would be allowed to smoke in the oxygen-enriched trains. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! You helped build the last great railway? I&#8217;m impressed and jealous.</p>

<p>But I ain&#8217;t ridin on that sucker until that answer this question to my Apollo I era satisfaction&#8230;..</p>

<p><i>There was some dispute over whether or not passengers would be allowed to smoke in the oxygen-enriched trains. </i></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: RC2</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You're precisely right, Red --and that's precisely what the Supremes have ruled-- that the Gitmo Guys are indeed covered (or anyway, 5 of them are, as they filed suit before Congress wrote a law denying the Court jurisdiction in this matter).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As the Scalia citation makes clear, the Court has no power to rule in this matter, but dealt itself in on a technicality --that this particular case was pending before the law denying jurisdiction was made --never mind that the super-duper precedent in such cases is that the Court can't rule from the time a law denying jurisdiction is enacted, and pending cases become moot.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And then they arrived at their conclusion on the ground that the Geneva conventions apply in a non-international conflict (civil war), which is what they say the war on terror is (since we're not at war with another country, this is a civil war apparently).The complainant, Osama bin Laden's driver, was picked up on a battlefield in Afghanistan, and the Court thinks he and others like him have the right not to be questioned without a lawyer present. Geniuses, these guys.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The court basically said to both the President and Congress: drop dead, we're in charge here.
In the end I don't think the ruling is that important, in spite of the drive-by media's breathless efforts to paint it as such. Bush would be well within his rights to ignore it --as Lincoln ignored Dred Scot, maintaining the Court ruling applied to Dred Scot solely, and had no general application. It might even do some good in that it is already stirring Congress to act against the Court, which might cause a few guys in the Legislature to read the Constitution and learn they don't have to roll over for the Court in other areas, either.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Still, a breathtakingly tyrannical and stupid decision.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re precisely right, Red &#8211;and that&#8217;s precisely what the Supremes have ruled&#8211; that the Gitmo Guys are indeed covered (or anyway, 5 of them are, as they filed suit before Congress wrote a law denying the Court jurisdiction in this matter).</p>

<p>As the Scalia citation makes clear, the Court has no power to rule in this matter, but dealt itself in on a technicality &#8211;that this particular case was pending before the law denying jurisdiction was made &#8211;never mind that the super-duper precedent in such cases is that the Court can&#8217;t rule from the time a law denying jurisdiction is enacted, and pending cases become moot.</p>

<p>And then they arrived at their conclusion on the ground that the Geneva conventions apply in a non-international conflict (civil war), which is what they say the war on terror is (since we&#8217;re not at war with another country, this is a civil war apparently).The complainant, Osama bin Laden&#8217;s driver, was picked up on a battlefield in Afghanistan, and the Court thinks he and others like him have the right not to be questioned without a lawyer present. Geniuses, these guys.</p>

<p>The court basically said to both the President and Congress: drop dead, we&#8217;re in charge here.
In the end I don&#8217;t think the ruling is that important, in spite of the drive-by media&#8217;s breathless efforts to paint it as such. Bush would be well within his rights to ignore it &#8211;as Lincoln ignored Dred Scot, maintaining the Court ruling applied to Dred Scot solely, and had no general application. It might even do some good in that it is already stirring Congress to act against the Court, which might cause a few guys in the Legislature to read the Constitution and learn they don&#8217;t have to roll over for the Court in other areas, either.</p>

<p>Still, a breathtakingly tyrannical and stupid decision.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Brett_McS</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, that's the one.  I was based in Golmud.  The big opening is supposed to be tomorrow (1st July).  I hope the locos perform OK.&lt;/p&gt;
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