Comments on: Cricket and Terrorism: Comparison and Edification http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html Mon, 01 Dec 2008 19:00:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: ninme http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8164 ninme Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:20:20 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8164 <p>ahhhh-HAH!</p> <p><i>ninme points triumphantly</i></p> ahhhh-HAH!

ninme points triumphantly

]]> By: Rueful Red http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8163 Rueful Red Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:37:32 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8163 <p>Well, Brett's summary was bang on, whoever Sharpeslipper might be. From the looks of the name I'd say the guy was 1) noted for his slip-catching and 2) had spent a lot of time watching Yorkshire in the 1960s.</p> Well, Brett’s summary was bang on, whoever Sharpeslipper might be. From the looks of the name I’d say the guy was 1) noted for his slip-catching and 2) had spent a lot of time watching Yorkshire in the 1960s.

]]> By: ninme http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8162 ninme Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:28:04 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8162 <p>No, I've decided it's Red. He's a veritable shape-shifter, the way he changes his name.</p> No, I’ve decided it’s Red. He’s a veritable shape-shifter, the way he changes his name.

]]> By: Brett_McS http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8161 Brett_McS Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:03:38 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8161 <p>Has to be someone who reads ninme. I didn't send the emails to anyone else.</p> <p>Yeh, Bill breeds racing pigeons. That's another thing that Greigy has a bit of fun with.</p> Has to be someone who reads ninme. I didn’t send the emails to anyone else.

Yeh, Bill breeds racing pigeons. That’s another thing that Greigy has a bit of fun with.

]]> By: ninme http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8160 ninme Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:56:11 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8160 <p>Who the hell is Sharpeslipper?! He's MY good friend in Australia! Unless he's been sending the same emails to people...</p> <p>Hello? Sharpeslipper? Identify yourself!</p> <p>Unless it's Red. How else would Red have found it?</p> Who the hell is Sharpeslipper?! He’s MY good friend in Australia! Unless he’s been sending the same emails to people…

Hello? Sharpeslipper? Identify yourself!

Unless it’s Red. How else would Red have found it?

]]> By: Rueful Red http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8159 Rueful Red Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:07:11 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8159 <p>Visiting teams have a slight advantage in England because er, most of the time they've been better. When they started covering wickets we lost even the home advantages offered by a green-top.</p> <p>That true about Bill Lawry? His defensive technique was indeed out of the Ozymandias coach ing manual - "look on my works ye mighty and despair". Didn't make for the most exciting afternoons though. He's a pigeon-fancier, isn't he?</p> Visiting teams have a slight advantage in England because er, most of the time they’ve been better. When they started covering wickets we lost even the home advantages offered by a green-top.

That true about Bill Lawry? His defensive technique was indeed out of the Ozymandias coach ing manual - “look on my works ye mighty and despair”. Didn’t make for the most exciting afternoons though. He’s a pigeon-fancier, isn’t he?

]]> By: Brett_McS http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8158 Brett_McS Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:26:05 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8158 <p>Bizzaro! Oh, well, that's the internet. (I wonder who that person is?)</p> <p>In overall decisions, visiting teams are even in Australia. In England the visiting teams actually have a slight advantage - which says a lot for the English sense of fair play.</p> <p>But I take your point. Whenever Tony Greig and Bill Lawry end up commentating together, the former England captain never misses an opportunity to bring up the fact that Bill was <i>never once given out LBW in Australia.</i> Bill, who is a good egg, starts mumbling something about technique... and Tony just cuts him off "Never once given out LBW...".</p> Bizzaro! Oh, well, that’s the internet. (I wonder who that person is?)

In overall decisions, visiting teams are even in Australia. In England the visiting teams actually have a slight advantage - which says a lot for the English sense of fair play.

But I take your point. Whenever Tony Greig and Bill Lawry end up commentating together, the former England captain never misses an opportunity to bring up the fact that Bill was never once given out LBW in Australia. Bill, who is a good egg, starts mumbling something about technique… and Tony just cuts him off “Never once given out LBW…”.

]]> By: Rueful Red http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8157 Rueful Red Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:00:19 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8157 <p>Brett made so much sense that his thoughts have somehow cropped up on this message board:</p> <p>http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbtms/F2208935?thread=3398473&skip=40&show=20</p> <p>Much respect, Mr Brett!</p> Brett made so much sense that his thoughts have somehow cropped up on this message board:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mbtms/F2208935?thread=3398473&skip=40&show=20

Much respect, Mr Brett!

]]> By: Rueful Red http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8156 Rueful Red Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:28:37 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8156 <p>Apologies for the double post.</p> Apologies for the double post.

]]> By: Rueful Red http://www.ninme.com/archives/2006/08/cricket_and_ter.html#comment-8155 Rueful Red Fri, 25 Aug 2006 10:27:02 +0000 http://d829161.u25.nozonenet.com/archives/2006/08/24/cricket_and_terrorism_comparison_and_edification.html#comment-8155 <p>ninme, you are very very fortunate to have a friend who'll go to such lengths to explain the ins and out of all this. Brett has analysed this much better than anything I've seen in the cricket press (which I do read). The parallel between neutral umpires and the multiculti issue was new to me, and very welcome. Well done Brett. I heartily endorse all you say.</p> <p>One quibble: you say "when England came to Australia the umpires were all Australians. This caused no problem whatsoever (statistics back this up - there was no bias)". Hmm. Perhaps not entirely. Ray Illingworth's side played (and won) a six-match series in 1970/71 without being awarded a single appeal for LBW, which must be some kind of record. And the 1958/59 side was beaten by chuckers like Meckiff and Rorke.</p> <p>The point being that the Aussies got rid of the chuckers themselves, and the cock-eyed umpires were, well, unconscious in any bias they might have had. The Pakis set out to cheat and then confront.</p> <p>I've lost all respect for the ICC since it forced England to tour Zimbabwe on pain of a huge financial penalty. I think we'd be better off playing who we like to play - a big part of the fun of winning the Ashes was seeing how the Aussies took defeat, utterly downcast and heartbroken and at the same time already counting down the days to when they could get stuck into the Poms again. That's the way to do it!</p> ninme, you are very very fortunate to have a friend who’ll go to such lengths to explain the ins and out of all this. Brett has analysed this much better than anything I’ve seen in the cricket press (which I do read). The parallel between neutral umpires and the multiculti issue was new to me, and very welcome. Well done Brett. I heartily endorse all you say.

One quibble: you say “when England came to Australia the umpires were all Australians. This caused no problem whatsoever (statistics back this up - there was no bias)”. Hmm. Perhaps not entirely. Ray Illingworth’s side played (and won) a six-match series in 1970/71 without being awarded a single appeal for LBW, which must be some kind of record. And the 1958/59 side was beaten by chuckers like Meckiff and Rorke.

The point being that the Aussies got rid of the chuckers themselves, and the cock-eyed umpires were, well, unconscious in any bias they might have had. The Pakis set out to cheat and then confront.

I’ve lost all respect for the ICC since it forced England to tour Zimbabwe on pain of a huge financial penalty. I think we’d be better off playing who we like to play - a big part of the fun of winning the Ashes was seeing how the Aussies took defeat, utterly downcast and heartbroken and at the same time already counting down the days to when they could get stuck into the Poms again. That’s the way to do it!

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