Edinburgh Correspondent Rueful Red Filed This Report
It did cross my mind to make this the funniest item of the day, but then I rebuked myself: Climate change is a serious issue.
my comments - The Tale of Rueful Red and the Penitent Eco-Fascist
I didn’t get the chance to ask a question, I was in stitches by the finish, he really is the most entertaining speaker I’ve heard in an age.
[Bjorn] Lomborg turned out to be young, slim, bottle-blond - think a slim Shane Warne - in a polo shirt and blue jeans. He presented with huge enthusiasm - perhaps 300 words a minute gusting to 350. Facts facts facts. Proposed anti-global warming strategies will cost about $150 billion, and every dollar spent will yield about 2 cents worth of social good (don’t know how he defines that concept). Spend the same dollar on HIV and you get $40 return, on Third World water you get $30 return, on free trade $20 return and on malaria eradication $10 return. Given that Kyoto will postpone global warming by 6 years - it’ll be as warm in 2106 as it otherwise would have been in 2100 - he asked which of the major issues we as a generation would like to be remembered as having addressed.
A Lefty local journalist then got up, gave us the whole “sky is falling” routine and then weighed into Bush over Kyoto, which was possibly the most dramatic demonstration of somebody not having paid a blind bit of notice to what a speaker’s been saying that I’ve ever seen. (Sorry about that sentence.) Then a very stupid woman asked whether, since Warren Buffett had donated $44 billion (Lomborg had talked about this) to tackle HIV and water issues, couldn’t we spend just a bit of money on climate change issues?
I was still suppressing my laughter at the idiocy of this question when he started talking about the concept of non-zero probabilities which I think are things that could happen but are too remote a possibility to be quantified. As an example of this he said that it was in theory possible (I’m not making this up, honest injun) that red-headed women could one day take over the government of the world, but highly unlikely. “Not as unlikely as you think, pal” I thought to myself, musing on the existence of the Redhead Liberation Front of which ninme has not denied membership.
I stayed for a couple of further addle-pated questions, reflected that it was a pity no Green MSP had graced us with their presence and then thought that it would be more useful to think about the interesting things that Lomborg had said rather than the stupid questions he’d been asked, so I left and went home.
PS There are it seems swings and roundabouts about this global warming business. By 2080, global warming will be responsible for an increase of 2,000 heat related deaths each year. It will however have also caused a reduction of 20,000 cold-related deaths. Not, therefore, one might say, an unalloyed evil.
PPS Sea levels are supposed to rise 30cm-50cm this century and we’re all doomed. Though we seemed to have survived last century’s rise of 25cm without too much trouble - they’d didn’t even have to put up decking in Kiribati.
Figures for heat/cold related deaths refer to the UK.
Wiki links added by me by way of illustration.
September 29th, 2006 at 10:04 pm
[This off-topic discussion has now be legitimised]. Bjorn did come to Australia (courtesy the CIS people) but I was away at the time, darnit. How do you know he is a bottle blonde - dark roots?
Well, Population Matters is very good, but rather long - there would be many shorter articles around. Simon was famous for that put-up or shut-up bet with Paul Erhlich, which Simon won of course. Didn’t shut Erhlich up though, unfortunately.
September 30th, 2006 at 8:52 am
I’d go green if I thought it would shut the environmentalists up for 6 years. But of course, they’d just be onto something else.
October 1st, 2006 at 3:55 am
Yep, the next assault would be on kitty cats and their nasty killer habits.
October 1st, 2006 at 9:28 am
Thanks for that, Brett, of course you mentioned the Ehrlich bet a while back, one of my favouritest ever eco-stories.
Roots looked darkish, but the the thing that struck me about him is that like Warne he was just enjoying himself far too much for people to approve - a bottle-blond trait, I’d argue.
Yup, cats are in the cross-hairs, .5MT. Had it from my neighbourhood eco-fascist who keeps up with these things.
October 1st, 2006 at 10:37 am
I for one will stand in the barricades with kitty cats, baby ducks and fluffy bunnies.
October 1st, 2006 at 2:01 pm
Wouldn’t cats solve your pigeon problem?
October 1st, 2006 at 5:55 pm
Gasp!
You’ve sussed it!
Can I be the Keeper of the Cats? I’ll clean up the little pufts of feathers laying about.
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:32 am
I’ll suggest it right away! That’s what we need, the American can-do attitude!