And Then There’s Poor
The Joy of Curmudgeonry - A Rich Vein of Poverty
It is rather odd that people should call for the end of poverty when they define that poverty as being the condition that inheres in a household living on less than sixty percent of the median income; for no matter how rich such households become, such “poverty” can never be ended — except by equalising all incomes. It may well be, as Mr Worstall says, that the concept of relative poverty is “tailor-made for endless work for the bureaucracy”. It certainly suits the bureaucracy, but then it suits the egalitarian ideal uncommonly well too.
.....The call to end poverty in this country sounds so much more decent to the general public than the call to equalise incomes; moreover, saying that millions of people are living in poverty sounds so much more shocking than saying that millions of people are poorer than others. No great intelligence is needed to understand this, but the political manipulators know how to exploit the moral sentiments of the people, and they know too that the spectre of relative poverty is enough to excite the moral indignation of anyone getting by on less than sixty percent of median intelligence.
I feel like that calling what we have in the UK and the US “poverty”, just like calling combat deaths in Iraq “slaughter” does serious harm to our concepts of “poverty” and “slaughter”. How are people supposed to feel for those starving in Africa if their concept of poverty is the morbidly obese with a television set in every council flat/welfare funded home, and how much does it belittle “real” war veterans when 20,000 British soldiers can be killed in one day of the Somme but writers at the Telegraph call 134 over four years in Iraq a “slaughter”?
Anyway, it really upsets me, is all.
Update (3.29):
…of median intelligence for the sake of their moral indignance.
March 28th, 2007 at 10:42 am
Thanks for the link, Ninme. It is indeed a sorry state of affairs.
March 28th, 2007 at 11:13 pm
Yes, it is intuitive that relative poverty implies that there can never be an end to poverty unless there is equalization of incomes..
..but who actually defines poverty as >60% the median income? Certainly not the US government; the US poverty threshold is based on the cost of a minimum adequate diet for families of different sizes and multiplying the cost by three to allow for other expenses. And this multiplying by 3 is sorely outdated and underestimates what it means to be poor–and there is widespread consensus on this.
What does it mean when we say that people in the US are living in poverty? They cannot afford basic necessities–rent, food, medical costs.
Why is it still “poverty” when, in Africa, people are starving to death and have it far worse off than in the US? Because the stress and suffering from the inability to house, feed, and clothe one’s family is very real. It’s about not being secure from one day to the next. Poverty is hopelessness.
“How are people supposed to feel for those starving in Africa if their concept of poverty is the morbidly obese with a television set in every council flat/welfare funded home”
I daresay that people are quite aware of the difference between the starvation in Africa and the obese poor in the US. People are quite capable of conceptualizing both.
How are people supposed to feel for impoverished Africans? Well here’s one way: “Wow, in the US even the worst off have it much better than the average African. We have so much here compared to over there. We should really think about why there is such inequity between developed and undeveloped countries.”
March 29th, 2007 at 1:40 am
“but who actually defines poverty as >60% the median income?”
HM Government ministers, sociologists, journalists, and other scoundrels. Of course it doesn’t matter at what level the threshold is set. Relative “poverty” cannot be eradicated, except by equalisation of incomes.
March 29th, 2007 at 1:43 am
By the way, Ninme, I have changed the last sentence of my post. Didn’t like it.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:47 pm
You know what the Department of Agriculture’s definition of “hunger” is? If you’ve missed a meal in the last month.
March 30th, 2007 at 11:25 pm
If you’ve missed a meal in the last month.
I blames…… THE MAN!