I wonder how this compares to the intellectual situation in the 30s?

I hope there are veiled references to fisticuffs in there.

The whole thing about “my girls”, though, I mean, the whole point of that is that people DON’T tend to get along with people from another culture in a long-term-marriage-and-kids relationship sort of way. Which is I think why interracial marriage is still so rare even here (leaving aside the stories you hear about black people, women especially, saying they would never marry a white person), because there’s just such a cultural difference to growing up black, still. So if you have a culture that your girls aren’t going to be able to be happily married to, then you’re going to have two different sets of people that are never going to intermingle. (which was also kind of the idea behind the old medieval primae noctis, so, you know, let’s all sit back and remember what truly regressive measures look like (and, in fact, who, statistically speaking, is doing most of the, ah, defiling, here).)

And this business about how every country in the world needs to be tolerant and welcoming and all this, that’s what we’re for. We wrote a big long constitution about it from the beginning. I don’t see how some people can just wake up one 60s morning and decide “We’re gonna do that too, now”.

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a big seller in Japan, but while we in the west read that book and say “There’s a conspiracy here! Let’s get ‘em!” they’re really quite impressed and treat it almost as a self-help book.

I just listened to SNN. It was an excellent interview, pretty much in the original style of interviewing (which started in Melbourne) of just prompting the person with a few questions to get them talking.

Tom Paine (real name Bruce!) needs to read up on his Acton, though! The path he is taking will lead to a pure, perfect alliance purged of all wrong thought and attitudes. An alliance of one.

He has also swallowed the American idea that holds racism up as one of the cardinal sins. However, more than 99% of people have a preference for their own race. The most racist people on earth? Probably the Japanese. Really, it’s not a big deal, Mr Paine.

Mosley was very popular among some dockers in Hull. I’m told that,during the Depression work on the docks was assigned by a bunch of Communist shop stewards, and a bunch of Blackshirts took them on. This story does not feature in any known work of labour history, so I don’t know how true this is.

“At all times sincere friends of freedom have been rare, and its triumphs have been due to minorities, that have prevailed by associating themselves with auxiliaries whose objects often differed from their own; and this association, which is always dangerous, has been sometimes disastrous, by giving to opponents just grounds of opposition, and by kindling dispute over the spoils in the hour of success. No obstacle has been so constant, or so difficult to overcome, as uncertainty and confusion touching the nature of true liberty. If hostile interests have wrought much injury, false ideas have wrought still more; and its advance is recorded in the increase of knowledge, as much as in the improvement of laws.”

Okay, I completely missed the “my girls” thing.

And having listened to it, what the heck is so shitty with that? Maybe I needed to listen to more but for crying out loud.

Look, the whole thing with the Nazis, it’s easy for us to say, but in Europe they actually had to live with the Nazis for a long time before the war even started. This same “Collaborateur!” thing is the same thing that people pulled out when they found out the Pope was in the Hitler Youth, and that Schwartzenegger’s father was in the party, but we don’t know what the situation was and making life difficult for a bunch of people in their nineties, or attacking people who don’t want to do that as Nazis, is just silly.

On the other hand, if you’re so upset about what the guy said, rather than turn on the guy asking the questions just don’t support the guy.

If you are an anti-Islamists, it is hard for many to find a political home as the Islamists have fallen in politically with the Socialists, the Islamo-Socialist Popular Front if you will. The Christian-Democrat parties in Europe, the Center-Right (more like Center-Left US Democrats) are not on average making a stand one way or the other. Who, therefore, is going to fill the vacuum? The quasi-Far Right. The smarter Far Right parties in the last 15 years have moved away from the Extreme-Far Right more towards the normal Right, at least in their policies and platforms. That is where VB is. That is why a lot of Europeans are supporting parties like VB and Swedish Dems.

Where do I stand in the “blog civil war” that Tom Paine talks about? Ungh. I am a big fan of LGF, but also Baron B. at Gates of Vienna.

If you get a chance, read about the Brussels Conf and the links at Atlas Shrugs.

I think Tom Paine did a good job in the interview. The discussion that started with 13 minutes left I think address the new-Nazi question quite well. I think the “sh1t” comment has to do with the “my girls” conversation at the 06:30 point. It was a fair interview, and what a loss if ShireNetworkNews goes away.

ninme my dear, if there is a Civil War going on in the anti-Islamists blogosphere - can we stay neutral?

Hmmm, may have to post.

Of course one of Bertie Wooster’s main antagonists is Roderick Spode, the character modelled on Hitler’s “brown shirts”. It is interesting to read fiction from this era, knowing what happened soon after, and see the insouciance. Not that Wodehouse’s poking fun at them was an example of that - quite the reverse.